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Change in MEGA Fish Pots (MEGA fishpot will function similar as LOCAL)

Goldtokens Posted by in General - November 11, 2013, 9:25 am

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We are going to make a change in MEGA fishpots. After this change MEGA fishpots will work similar as local fishpots. As soon as L$ amount on mega fishpot reaches above 80 or 100 L$ randomly a fisher that gets the lucky cast will will win it.

We might lower the trigger point of LOCAL fishpot so that it triggers somewhere in range from 30 to 50 L$ while the MEGA fishpot will trigger in a range of 80 to 150 L$.

If needed trigger points will be even lower so that it makes whole thing more fun. We'll experiment a bit before we find the fixed trigger points for local and mega pots.

Implementation:
Current MEGA fishpot will be reset to 0 and will start growing until it pops to a lucky fisher.

MEGA fish function stays \☺/

ETA (estimated time of arrival):

2 weeks - 2 months
UPDATE: This update will come with a bit of delay because we lately hadn't have enough time to work on it.


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Community Comments

Elina Tigerauge
November 11, 2013, 9:43 am -

HI5 \☺/


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Catalysis Resident
November 11, 2013, 6:40 pm -

What's going to happen to the L$53,000 we've already contributed to it?


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ProHuman Resident
November 11, 2013, 9:07 pm -

thats too low... keep the local where it is, and make mega 2000 - 3000 L$.

with a mega that low.. the pot will be going off all the time, if the mega is going to run off all buoys.


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Mystic Glenwalker
November 12, 2013, 12:08 am -

I agree with Catalysis and would like to know what those funds are going to?  


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Catalysis Resident
November 12, 2013, 12:40 am -

Well rumor has it that its been discussed a little in lgh chat...and they are undecided what to do with our money. But its possible that we the many, may lose it, to pay back what the few dishonest farmers stole through the farming bug.

Once again, my vote goes for the original mega fishpot lottery. That was the original plan. That was what everyone agreed upon when it was decided that money would come out of every cast, making our fishing less profitable to fund it.  It was fun, it was exciting, and it was a chance to win big.  Some didnt like it, cuz they didnt win, but at least everyone had the same odds.  Some of us did like it, even though we never got a chance to win before the system was changed.

WE contribute that money out of every cast, there is no reason innocent players should have to pay for a bug that existed for years in a product that wasnt fully tested, and that dishonest people exploited without detection for so long.

 


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ProHuman Resident
November 12, 2013, 3:07 am -

indeed. there are many fishers who dont even farm worms, so there is no reason they should be punished.

the mega fishpot should have nothing to do with some exploit that some worm farmers took advantage of.

i think the mega fish chances should be turned up, till the pot is drained. allowing fishers to catch more megafish, more often. perhaps even add a couple bigger mega fish to drain the pot even faster.


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Catalysis Resident
November 12, 2013, 11:29 pm -

 

I dont really see why our money should be used to promote your business or to buy new landowners buoys.  LOL  No one bought me a buoy, I bought THREE of them.

Starting the Mega pots with 30% in them is an ok idea, but honestly.... that's alot of pots, and alot of money and pretty hard to assure us we're going to get all of our money back.

Subvention I think most fishers could live with, at least we get a chance to fish our money up.

The bottom line is, that money belongs to the fishers. When the pot started everyone was skeptical, but didnt have a choice but to go along with it. The money comes out of every single cast we make, reducing the profit of our fishing. Doing anything other than giving it back to the fishers somehow is, in my opinion, wrong.

 

 


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d2max Resident
November 13, 2013, 12:24 pm -

Leave the 55k L$ in Mega Fishpot board until the amount is low enough to update Mega Fishpot. A combination of these will significantly reduce the 55k L$:
1. Introduce Mega fishes worth 20L$, 50L$ and 100L$. Increase the frequency of winning Mega fish.
2. Offer buoy subvention for multiplier events more often.
3. Mega Fishpot to become one of the contest sponsors for Royal Fish Hunt weekly contest.
4. Use Mega Fishpot to purchase few water spirits (blue) and give away as Mega fish lottery. After all, every fisher has already fished up some magic dusts which cannot be sold. The free blue shubbie should be No Transfer as the purpose is for the winner to use it and not resell. 


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Charmed Melody
November 13, 2013, 2:03 pm -

I have an extra idea help use those that got the Deluxe rod on credit use some of the Mega Fishpot Ls to help those fishers not owe anymore on it. There are Tons of fishers on the rankings that gave up on the fish hunt cause it costed way more then the 3,500 for that credit rod cause they couldnt fish/collect enough coins to pay it off, and got discouraged.... seeing the negative balance deleted might bring them back to the game.


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Catalysis Resident
November 13, 2013, 6:06 pm -

*hi5 Max*  All great ideas for ways to disperse the money back to the fishers!


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ChampionHavoc Aristocrat
November 14, 2013, 5:18 am -

I agree with Catalysis and max. The mega fishpot is funded with our fishing money. It does not benefit us fishers to use it for your business promotions. It should be returned back to fishers, whether its a big jackpot or many big mega fishes etc.


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TerryDavidd Resident
November 14, 2013, 6:04 pm -

It looks to me like Wili is just offering some of the possibilities which have crossed his mind ... I am sitting back to see what he ends up doing ...   and kudos to him for being so transparent in his thoughts ... Max had some great ideas as did Wili ...    it will be interesting to see what he comes up with as the best solution .  Im sure he will do the right thing  :) 


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Goldtokens
October 6, 2014, 2:59 pm -

This update will come with a bit of delay because we lately hadn't have enough time to work on it.

For mega pot that is already in buoys here are few scenarios that we're considering:

  1. Start each MEGA pot (after update) with already 30 % on it as long as about 53 k get spent
  2. Simply reset it and spend the 53 k of L$ from MEGA fishpot for promotion of FISH HUNT targetign to get more land owners involved
  3. Use mega fish pot amount to offer BUOY Owners Subvention for their MULTIPLIER events as we've did many times in past
  4. Use mega fish pot to buy Fish Hunt Buoys and strategically give out free buoys to new land owners that would be commited to run events for fishers. 

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Goldtokens
October 6, 2014, 2:59 pm -

There are even more options then I have time to write. We will certainly consider all options and when making decisions we'll try to find a way that will lead to best possible outcome.

I've also talked to Catalysis and we've agreed that we will not create an issue out of a decision that hasn't yet been made and therefore there is no need for arguments or any conflicts.


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Goldtokens
October 6, 2014, 2:59 pm -

More Fish Hunt places there are out there more fishers can make. Fish Hunt business interest is congruent with fishers interests to be able to make more money.

Anything we can do to increase the number of Fish Hunt places is indirectly benefiting fishers. So statements such as our money, your business are unfair and sound missleading. My business only makes more money if more fishers are getting more money and the only way more fishers can fish for more money is if there are more fishing places available for fishers to fish at and when there are more and more land owners create more multiplier events.


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Catalysis Resident
November 14, 2013, 5:24 pm -

Unfortunately, we didnt 'indirectly' pay into that mega fishpot.

Anyone remember the uproar around this when the mega fishpot first started?  NO ONE wanted their profit reduced, even when the money was going to a pot they had a chance to win. Imagine what the reaction would have been if you'd said "We're going to take just a tiny bit of money off each of your casts and use it to beef up my advertising budget"   or "We're going to take just a bit of money off each of your casts and buy people you dont know, buoys. They may or may not actually fund them, but if they do I'll make 30% tax!"

This is total bs Wili and I cant believe more fishers arent speaking up about this. That is OUR money. It comes out of the money WE earn by fishing. If YOU want to advertise your business, or give away product that in the end earn YOU more money, you should do that. But YOU should pay for it.

Oh, and well, we probably wont see too many replies to this now, cuz it's been removed from the 'recent blogs' page...

 


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Goldtokens
October 6, 2014, 2:59 pm -

For the record. I did not say that we will spend the lindens from MEGA fish pot for advertising or to get new land owners discount on buoys. These were just one of options that we are considering and it was not said we will choose those.

I am saying that your argument does not take into account simple fact that "FISHERS" can make more money if there are more buoys placed across whole of Second Life. And there is no need to create such a hot debate out of this as there is already enough drama flying around which doesen't do any good to Fish Hunt system as a whole and doesn't do any good for all the fishers.

For your last statement about the blog being removed from recent blogs. It has not been removed from recents blogs. It was removed from featured blog posts that pin it on the homepage and here is why:
I originally made this blog post as a non featured post and it was AmyNevilly who pinned this post as a featured post then later as soon as I learned about this. I unpinned it then again from featured blog posts to be posted as it originally was as non featured blog post.


Reason why I was making this next update public is because I don't want DRAMA again when the update is released. Reason for wanting to make this update is to add a new exciting thing for fishers and more traffic for buoy owners so that Fish Hunt game can grow and more Residents become fishers and more land owners use Fish Hunt system.

But if such drama will happen around this when I am just posting intention then I will prefer not to create this update. Because there are just too many people that want to have a say in new updates and then if things don't go as they wanted they're prepared to create drama and start drama actions with intentions to destroy the game in a  "My way or no way" fashion.


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Catalysis Resident
November 14, 2013, 5:52 pm -

I understand no decision has been made Wili, but you certainly are working very hard to justify options that directly benefit you the most. You didnt even acknowledge any of the options one of your own mods put out there. I'm not trying to create DRAMA, I'm trying to get the fishers involved in a decision process that directly affects them, and the money they have contributed.


Goldtokens
October 6, 2014, 2:59 pm -

Why are you saying that I didnt even acknowledge any of the options that one of my own ex mods has put out there? Why are you saying things that I supposedly have done that I haven't really done?

Ofcourse that I've read his suggestions and I've paid attention to them - some are good.


I had to quickly skim over good comments of others because of your tone of  writting here which is in a way that calls for a heated debate + your inclinations to create DRAMA.

Yes NO decision has been made and we are still looking for the best for all decision. As an owner of the system I am the one that will create the decision and I just have to ask you to patiently wait for the final decision and not make a DRAMA spectacle out of a game UPGRADE.

Thank you








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